Lt-Colonel broke Armed Forces regulations introducing Andrew Leslie at Liberal convention?

Andrew Leslie

The person listed to introduce Liberal star candidate Andrew Leslie at the Liberal convention was a “Harjit Singh Sajjan”:

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Close-up view:

sajjan 2 A quick Google search of the name produced a Lt-Colonel Harjit Singh Sajjan which you would guess to be the correct person considering Leslie’s military background:

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One problem though if it was the same Sajjan who participated in this political event is that it looks to be against the Canadian Armed Forces regulations (see here) to do so:

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I’m trying to find out if indeed these two are the same person and if so, will inquire with the Armed Forces whether it is allowed.

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30 Responses to “Lt-Colonel broke Armed Forces regulations introducing Andrew Leslie at Liberal convention?”

  1. Liz J Says:

    This whole transition from the military to politics of such a high ranking officer is starting to look like less than what you’d expect from someone who would be high on details. It could become more of a comedy of errors, a gong show or something in between.

  2. Bubba Brown Says:

    Rookie mistake once again?

  3. paulsstuff Says:

    It is indeed one and the same Lt-Colonel Harjit Singh Sajjan. But I think you are focusing on the wrong guy. Why would Leslie, a longtime serving general, allow a member of the forces to violate their own code of conduct? Surely Leslie is aware of that rule given his years in the service

    Would also be interesting to see if the Liberalls are paying for Lt-Colonel Harjit Singh Sajjan’s travel and hotel costs, or is the taxpayer getting the hook again from Leslie.

    It was also great watching the media falling all over themselves about the Conservatives “courting” Leslie only to find out it was him looking for a comfy well paid government job. Of course I could also mention the fact the Liberals pursued Conservative cabinet minister Chris Alexander prior to him joining the Conservatives, at which point the Liberass took to, what’s that word Leslie keeps using? Oh yeah, smearing Alexander.

    • Dave Says:

      Lieberals like demorats make up their own rules as they go along. And the msm keeps everything nice and covered just in case there is any corruption talk from the “unwashed masses”.
      Or so it seems.

  4. Liz J Says:

    Why am I reminded of Gomer Pyle?

  5. I am conservative! Says:

    The QR&O states member of the “regular forces” the guy is in the reserves so the regulation does not apply. If he had used his rank or wore a uniform that would be a problem, even for a reservist. People who are in the reserves get to do thing in the life outside the military that “regular force” members do not because they are part time.I understand what you are trying to do but sorry you are incorrect.

    • BC Blue Says:

      “Lt.-Col. Harjit Singh joined the British Columbia Regiment as a Trooper in 1989 and was commissioned in the Regiment in 1991. He was promoted to Captain in 1995 and to Major in 2005. He has served in Bosnia-Herzegovina as well as three deployments to Afghanistan”

      • I am conservative! Says:

        I will take you word he is still in the militia as you state he is a member of British Columbia Regiment a reserve unit . Member of the reserves are not covered by the QR&O you quoted. If he had wore a uniform or used his rank it could have been an problem but part time members of the reserves are allowed a life outside the military.

  6. Ed the Hun Says:

    If he is a reservist then that regulation wouldn’t apply. I am guessing that he isn’t reg force

  7. John Bolduc Arthur Says:

    The LCol is a reservist, and as you can see from the legal extract, restrictions on political activity apply to the “Regular Force” There are no restrictions on political activism by reservists while off duty – and rightly so. I used to shoot with a guy (Tory) who was actually working in a Minister’s office in the Hill… while still wearing a reservist’s uniform once a week.

    • BC Blue Says:

      Reservists are given command of regiments?

      “Lt.Col. Harjit Singh Sajjan, has become the first Sikh in Canada to take command of a British Columbia regiment. In a historic ceremony, a change of command in the British Columbia Regiment (Duke of Connaught’s Own) took place on September 11, 2011, at the Beatty Street Armoury in Vancouver”

      http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/first-canadian-sikh-soldier-takes-command-of-bc-regiment/article1-745303.aspx

    • Steve Jacobson Says:

      Reg Force members serve at reserve force units. There’s no way you can tell whether someone is a reserve member or Reg Force simply by the unit they serve at. The CO, RSM, Quarter Master, Chief Clerk, and Ops O at reserve units are commonly Reg Force members. Sometimes not. But you can’t tell simply by the unit they serve at.

    • Steve Jacobson Says:

      As well, to Dean and others who are claiming reservists are allowed to be political, there are other regulations beyond the QR&O cited above which specifically applies to Reg Force personnel. Even if the LCol is a reservist, there are other policies that apply to engaging in political or partisan work:

      QR&O 19.36 prohibits any member from publicly writing, lecturing, or speaking about “any dealing with a subject of a controversial nature affecting other departments of the public service or pertaining to public policy.”

      QR&O 19.44 prohibits any Regular Force member from taking “an active part in the affairs of a political organization or party.”

      Conflict of interest policies state that maintaining “public confidence in the impartiality and objectivity of the Public Service and the CF” will be enforced.

      Finally, QR&O 19.14 states that no officer or non-commissioned member shall do or say anything that “if seen or heard by any member of the public, might reflect discredit on the Canadian Forces or on any of its members.”

      LCol Sajjan speaking at a Liberal convention, then, is a clear violation of these policies.

      There is indeed a “confidential reporting” system that goes through Chief Review Services (CRS). Did this LCol obtain the proper permissions from CRS to engage in political activity?

      Sajjan also appears to be a former police officer and current security contractor (http://www.darpanmagazine.com/2011/10/taking-command-lieutenant-colonel-harjit-singh-sajjan/). Who is he contracting with? Almost any of his security advice would have to go through CRS to ensure he is not in a conflict of interest with his military duties.

      It’s clear there is one set of rules for Conservatives, another one for Liberals.

  8. Pissedoff Says:

    Maybe someone should ask Trudeau why he is recruiting war criminals, unless he is calling Rae and Dosanjhi liars.

  9. Anne in swON Says:

    From the Ottawa Citizen on Oct. 17, 2013: “The Canadian Forces has ordered a member of the military who is also president of the Ottawa South Conservative Association to resign immediately from that position and cease his political activities.”

    The member referred to was Daniel Dickin of Blogging Tories and the story appeared under “Reservist Daniel Dickin ordered to resign as Tory organizer after criticizing veterans advocate”

    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Reservist+Daniel+Dickin+ordered+resign+Tory+organizer+after+criticizing+veterans+advocate/9104340/story.html

    Funny how some rules apply to conservatives only, isn’t it?

    • John Bolduc Arthur Says:

      Interesting case… there doesn’t seem to have been coverage of how the investigation was resolved. Certainly, I don’t see how the DAOD on Conflict of Interest cited in the story could be used against routine political activism like being President of a riding association. Had I been subject to such an order as when I was a Class A reservist, I would have filed grievance and got a lawyer long before I would have willingly resigned the political post – and I can’t imagine how such an order could stand up in court.

      When a reservist is not in uniform… they are not in uniform.

    • Steve Jacobson Says:

      @Anne very interesting indeed! One set of rules for Conservatives, another set of rules for Liberals.

    • andycanuck Says:

      Great catch, Anne.

  10. paulsstuff Says:

    15.3.4 Reserve Force members

    15.3.4.1 Members of the Reserve Force are not prohibited from participating in political activities, other than the restrictions imposed under QR&O 19.44(8) whereby “No officer or non-commissioned member shall organize or take part in a political meeting on a defence establishment.”

    15.3.4.2 However, CF members must avoid any real, apparent or potential conflict of interest or outside activity that would undermine the impartiality or objectivity of the Government of Canada.

    15.3.4.3 For these reasons, members of the Reserve Force must submit a confidential report to the CRS declaring their intent to seek nomination to be a candidate in a federal, provincial, territorial or municipal, band council, school board or other local government body election. The CRS will determine whether there is a conflict of interest or if potential or appearance of conflict of interest can be resolved through constraints imposed upon the Reserve Force member so that engaging in the political activity does not undermine the impartiality or the objectivity of the Government of Canada, DND or the CF.

    15.3.4.4 Procedures for submitting a confidential report can be found in the DAOD 7021 series.

  11. paulsstuff Says:

    http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about/code-of-values-and-ethics.page

    As already noted, there is no way of knowing wether he is regular forces or reservist.


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